Start of #there2 buffer: Tue Oct 07 22:37:38 2003 --- cut out previous junk ---- [21:35] guys dont forget tomorrow is 30% off at KB toys :P [21:36] seriously? [21:36] cuz of that lawsuit. stock up on transformers while you can!!! [21:36] heheh [21:36] online or brick & mortar only? [21:36] dunno. [21:36] what lawsuit is that Randra? [21:36] er.. I mean, who cares [21:36] :) [21:36] exactly, i dunno. the "you win" lawsuit. all i know is 30% off. [21:37] lol [21:37] heh i'm serious, it was the "you win" lawsuit. I just didnt read the details. [21:39] http://www.kbtoys.com/help/legalnotice.html?place=bfnt&_e=3f839&_ v=3F839493H2YbaC2220D31604 [21:39] *** Quits: CrystalShard (cshard@212.150.205.139) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:39] http://www.bash.org/?149939 [21:40] *** Joins: CrystalShard (cshard@212.150.205.139) [21:40] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o CrystalShard [21:40] COOK COUNTY. wasnt that where Sheriff Little was from, in the Dukes of Hazzard? [21:40] *** Quits: Lloyd|Here (~Lloyd@adsl-68-122-237-92.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:41] * Digital_Signal_X covers ears and yell's LALALALA at points of fact about Dukes of Hazzard plot lines. [21:41] cuff'em n' stuff'em. [21:41] good night everyone [21:41] my protest against sleep has ended early LOL [21:41] ni ni :) [21:41] hm DSX, i just read some disturbing news [21:41] it seems you have broke your word [21:41] re: our verbal agreement for you not to resell those cats [21:42] we had a verbal agreement? [21:42] heh.. at a 100% markup no less? rather hypocritical of you, considering your stance on resale values. [21:43] verbal as in voice chat or was it actually written as text chat? [21:43] just in-game discussion. [21:43] I didnt bother to save logs or anything, because at the time i trusted him :P [21:43] Seriously? [21:43] so it was in fact a written agreement! AH HA! [21:43] I don't remember saying I wouldn't resell them [21:43] * Mescad hasn't been a part of any drama in There yet :) [21:43] *** Joins: Lloyd|Here (~Lloyd@adsl-68-122-237-92.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) [21:43] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Lloyd|Here [21:43] 12• 11Thanks for the @ 12• [21:44] i do. because my first concern was that you just wanted them at 80% off of retail to resell them. [21:44] * Phedre returns with popcorn... [21:44] and honestly, 1500 is still 1/2 your price. [21:44] i made itijsme agree to the same thing, when i sold him like 30 terminator bears. [21:44] ? Randra, seriously, i wanted them to drop 50 cats. [21:45] Now I can't. [21:45] sure, its 1/2 my price.. but you are making a $35,000 pure profit margin off of my work. Why would i sell anyone stuff at low prices so they'd just simply resell it? [21:45] seems pretty unethical of you. [21:45] because you didn't sell it to me so I would resell it. [21:45] and I didn't buy it to resell it. [21:45] um . may i ask what price DSX paid per cat? [21:46] but I don't remember stating that I would not resell them ever. [21:46] i can understand why you'd want to make back what you paid, but why try to gain profit from something you didnt earn? [21:46] he paid like 850 or 900. [21:46] ok thanks [21:46] so you still made like 700 per cat? [21:46] you're missing the point; this goes against everything you've been talking about the last few days [21:47] how is that? [21:47] I'd just find it amusing, except that you broke your word on reselling. [21:47] Your claim that I broke my word randra. [21:47] Show me the proof, and I'll kindly apologize and retract them. [21:48] phedre: makes him look like a moneygrubber? because he's basically taking a bulk deal and reselling for $35k profit with zero effort? [21:48] effort? [21:48] lol. Are you aguring that I'm selling at X price, or that that I'm "breaking my word" [21:48] hmmm i dunno about that Randra [21:48] both [21:49] well, pick an arguement. Because they're completely different. [21:49] DSX, on the "official" level it may be "ok", but frankly - it doesnt make you look so good. [21:49] i see ppl reselling my stuff all the time and i think more power to them if they can make a bit of TB off my work [21:49] really phedre? ok, then what justifies him reselling at 100% markup on a bulk deal, if his goal isnt to just grub money? [21:49] I will be happy to argue the price. [21:49] yes phedre but you didnt sell them 50 of the same clothing set for 80% retail. [21:50] on the issue of breaking your word, where can that discussion go? Randra said you had a verbal agreement. DSX says I don't remember, prove it. We all know you can't prove that, so I think that point is moot. [21:50] agreed Mescad [21:50] no, but i have seen my limited editions go for more than triple their prices... [21:50] exactly mescad. Unless one of my THERE RAR backups from a PB update still has the txt log, which i doubt, there is no way. [21:50] phedre: well how is that related at all? [21:50] Thing is, you know I had a cat obsession [21:51] and anyone in There will attest to that [21:51] surely you cant compare a bulk sale of 50 items to a limited edition, normal price purchased resale. [21:51] It's quite clear I did not purchase them with the intent of reselling them. [21:51] well... unless you were creating demand [21:51] however, once they are mine, what I choose to do with them, is no concern to you. [21:51] That was entirely randra's goal. [21:52] I even said I'd advertize her cats for him. [21:52] And I did, with a sign, for quite some time. [21:52] lol @ pronouns [21:52] well then, i'm curious why you choose to mark them up significantly over what you paid? especially with your claimed desires to market affordable items. [21:52] it is related in terms of reselling items. If some one else profits from some of my work, i believe i am contributing to the growing economy. i do not expect some sort of payback. They already paid the agreed upon price. [21:52] actually i did not see any increase in sales with your cat fortress, to be honest. [21:52] ya, the her-him confuses me a great deal. It's hard to keep the facts straight. [21:53] I think 50% off your price is affordable. [21:53] phedre: would you sell someone a bulk of 50 of your vinal buckle shirts for 1/6th what you charge for them in auction? [21:53] I've sold 5 already. [21:53] Randra, you keep implying I purchased them to resell. Which is not true. [21:53] its affordable? sure. Is it benifiniting anyone but yourself? no. [21:53] i all ready sell in bulk to many ppl randra in private sales [21:53] The circumstances of There has changed, and I simply do not, and can not, use them. [21:54] * CrystalShard have a look at the channel [21:54] omg. [21:54] most ppl know that if they have more than 3 of my items they can come and get more items with significant discounts [21:54] Too many words. [21:54] It's no worse then akia selling back 20 of her hammocks because of dropping being changed [21:54] why not charge what you paid then? why try to make such a large profit? i find it amusing and hyprocritical of you after all that banter about builder wholesale. [21:54] It is different, actually - she's selling for the same or lower price. [21:54] Not higher. [21:54] actually since they are used, I would expect a lower cost [21:54] lol. I find the mere fact you're aguring my price at 1/2 yours even more funny [21:55] argueing* [21:55] nice dodge of the issue, dsx [21:55] lol. dodge? [21:55] I'm not dodging a thing sir. [21:55] yes. is there any reason but greed for the markup? [21:55] if you want to re-raise the whole issue, lets do it. [21:55] but I'm saying, let yee without sin. [21:56] ah, but i never argued your angle. [21:56] Um... btw... Akia isnt selling any hammocks... [21:56] you did. [21:56] There's back up at the moment. [21:56] you basically are doing exactly what you protest. [21:56] am I? [21:56] how? [21:56] heh. its like talking to a brick wall. [21:56] so you're saying I should sell your cats at what, 3000? like you? or sell them at 200. [21:57] no need for insults Randra I have yet to see DSX insult you. [21:57] he called Randra_Loqqet sir ;) [21:57] i'm saying if you really cared about giving the "people" a deal, you'd sell them for what you got them for. [21:57] Mescad: her majesty the queen knighted me back in '87 [21:57] I think 1/2 of your price is a deal, you seem to think it's not? [21:58] I think he does think its a deal BUT not as you as the seller [21:58] I just thought calling a female avatar (non-military) sir was an insult. Considering the knighting I retract my claim. [21:58] *** Joins: Lloyd|Here2 (~Lloyd@adsl-68-122-237-92.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) [21:58] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Lloyd|Here2 [21:58] exactly. You are making a huge profit for no one's gain but your own. [21:58] 12• 11Thanks for the @ 12• [21:58] *** Quits: Lloyd|Here (~Lloyd@adsl-68-122-237-92.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) (Write Error: Connection reset by peer) [21:58] no "people" are helped by you selling for that price. Why not "help the people" and sell it for 850? [21:58] because you are exactly the person you claim to be against. [21:59] lol. [21:59] counter it if you will [21:59] but you have no arguement against. [21:59] well actaully randra they are.... if the only way to get cats is from you at 3000 and he sells them at 1500 then technically he is helping ppl get cats cheaper [21:59] Randra, listen to yourself, honest. How can you insult me as being greedy for charging 1/2 your price on your items? [21:59] there 'people' do not know what transpired between the two of you [21:59] phedre: how does what they know change what dsx is doing [22:00] he's taking something he got a bulk deal on and making a huge profit, for no one's gain but his own. [22:00] show me how thats 'for the people' [22:00] if I was being greedy, I'd be charging 2900 [22:00] but the people buying the cats don;t know nor do i think they would care, because they are still getting cats cheaper than your price. [22:00] I think getting any item in a special deal from a friend and then re-selling is unethical - just my 2 cents before I go to bed, like I should be already [22:01] the internal strife between you and DSX is irrelevnat to your argument to helping people. [22:01] even if you can no longer use that item luekka? [22:01] *to=about [22:01] lyekka* [22:01] I agree with Lyekka [22:01] * Lyekka 12is AFK, 04Z07z08Z09Z12z11z13Z04Z07z08z09z12Z11z13z04z07z08z12. Gone now for:«11112hrs12» 12(11Pager is On, /ctcp Lyekka Page 12) 06—14I06-15n06-15v06-00i06-00s06-15i06-15o06-14n06— [22:01] Yes, even if you can no longer use that item [22:01] phedre, then how is his pure profit gain helping anyone but himself? [22:01] And good night L. [22:01] if he wants the people to afford cats, he'd do so at the price he paid. [22:01] Lyekka, I mean [22:01] *** Joins: Lloyd|Here (~Lloyd@adsl-68-122-237-92.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) [22:01] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Lloyd|Here [22:01] 12• 11Thanks for the @ 12• [22:02] so lets go back to housing, if I buy and resell a house.. how much worse is that? [22:02] am I just as "greedy" ? [22:02] *** Quits: Lloyd|Here2 (~Lloyd@adsl-68-122-237-92.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [22:02] did you buy 50 houses at 1/6 the price? [22:02] or am I only greedy if I buy it and sell it right away? instead of using it for 4 months [22:02] did THERE offer you a bulk discount for houses? [22:03] if I bought a house 4 months ago, compared to prices today, yes. [22:03] a house. not 50 house. [22:03] so quanity makes it evil? [22:03] yes. [22:03] *** Joins: Lloyd|Here2 (~Lloyd@adsl-68-122-237-92.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) [22:03] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Lloyd|Here2 [22:03] are the cats now broken such that you can't use them? I think it's misleading to say that you CAN'T use them if the only reason is that you don't want your zone you've chosen to buy full of them. [22:03] 12• 11Thanks for the @ 12• [22:04] one could assume you bought 1 house for your own wants. buying 50 houses at bulk and then reselling them, well thats obviously greed with no purpose other than self profit. [22:04] mescad: they work fine. [22:04] I can't use them mescad. I made a choice 4 months ago to purchase a large ammount of cats knowing I could use them. Now I simply can not. They are utterly useless in my inventory. [22:04] why not? Is your PAZ broken? [22:05] because I could only drop 30 at a time. [22:05] KittenKat has given me many items on the cheap, and if I can no longer use them or want them, I will either return the item to There or donate it to newbies. I would NEVER put it up for auction - I don't see how anyone could view that as being "fair" [22:05] would you be as upset if I was only selling 20? [22:05] It seems that actually the case is that you don't want to use them, not that you can't. [22:05] Lyekka: exactly. especially in terms of a bulk sale of 50 items. [22:05] what about all the free items you get now as level ups that are in auctions? [22:06] The issue is not the price or the item, it is about the issue of trust between the two parties [22:06] people are selling those, and "ripping off there" in this same logic [22:06] right. broken trust. its really a shame i dont have that chatlog. [22:06] so your defense is "everyone else is doing it?" [22:06] DSX - people EARN those items - they are NOT gifts [22:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +l 24 [22:06] You don't think I EARNED the 900 a piece I paid for them? [22:06] remember, randra didn't GIVE me those cats [22:06] he STILL made 3x their cost [22:06] so what makes you earn reselling them at 1500 a piece [22:06] DSX - they cost money to manufacture - Randra's money [22:07] and he paid for that lyekka [22:07] * Lyekka 12is AFK, 04Z07z08Z09Z12z11z13Z04Z07z08z09z12Z11z13z04z07z08z12. Gone now for:«11112hrs 5mins12» 12(11Pager is On, /ctcp Lyekka Page 12) 06—14I06-15n06-15v06-00i06-00s06-15i06-15o06-14n06— [22:07] "nice dodge randra" [22:07] my time, my dollars.. into dsx pocket. for his own greed. [22:07] Deathany have given me several pieces of cloth for free - If I will ever want to get rid of them, I will give them away. Auctioning these outfits will be wrong. [22:07] You got a bloody good deal that you would not have gotten buying normally. The deal was a special agreement, and you had an obligation not to profit in any way from that agreement. [22:07] She did not give them to me to make a profit - she gave them to me out of friendship, and I will not abuse it to make a profit. [22:07] I had a obligation? [22:07] Its an obligation of trust, really. [22:07] Yes [22:07] according to RL's memory you did [22:07] Exactly CS [22:08] Trust [22:08] Its not a rule - its a social thing. [22:08] Oh no Randra, your time was paid for when he paid you.. you agreed at the time to that price. you cannot now say he is stealing money from you be reselling. [22:08] I had no more an obligation then any developer does looking at a 200 dollar cost and selling at 3000. [22:08] even if we hadnt had that agreement, which we did, its still a dirty thing to do; and its pretty obviously done out of spite for the recent conflicts over pricing. [22:08] Phedre - if this was a business then I would agree with you - but this was a deal because they are FRIENDS - that changes everything [22:08] no, it wasn't done over spite. [22:09] `nod [22:09] I've been discussing selling them for quite some time, proof is in the thread with brand. [22:09] I specifically state how I have many useless items like cats [22:09] Phedre - awhile back you gave me a top... i'll never auction it. I may give it away for free ot discard, but i'm not going to ask for a profit for it, since you did not get any profit for it either. It will feel wrong to sell it. [22:09] and the only way to recoup those costs is via a refund with There, or auctions. [22:09] i'd still like your answer on why you deserve a $35k profit instead of helping out poor avatars who could better afford one for 900. [22:09] when money is involved it is always business Lyekka every decison you make regarding that will have some fallout and you either agree to and get on with things. [22:10] 12«11Phedre12» Then you and I see things in There very differently. [22:10] CS, the point of some of my limtied edition and free work is so that people CAN make some money off it. [22:10] i expect pple to resel [22:11] so if you offer a limited edition and I buy them all up for resale at what I think is market value, that would be fine? [22:11] Well, i'd sell if I'd get permission... if no one tells me anything I do not sell by default. :) [22:11] whether i make money in a transaction is irelevant if someone else does so off a new one on that item [22:11] why should I sell them any less then my attraction to them? I want people to have cats. They -are- valuable to me, but you know what? I think 1500 is a good deal. you feel 3000 is a good deal. We disagree. [22:11] Phedre. If you gave someone a discount because (and only because) you considered them a friend. Would you then be hurt if they turned around and sold your gift for profit? Just curious [22:11] yes mescad [22:11] nope [22:11] dsx: ok, then how can you EVER argue again over pricing set by developers? [22:11] Interesting [22:12] easy. [22:12] i would be happy to see a friend make a bit of TB off my work [22:12] because the retort to anything you say in that area will be the reason you just stated now. [22:12] I would ask the same of you randra. [22:12] What if a friend gave a gift to you. Would you sell it for profit? [22:12] ask me what? [22:12] how can you possibly claim to be rightious in the face of your own pricing and costs. [22:13] What is wrong with Randra's pricing? [22:13] depends on the gift, but probably not. but that is me, i will stil not mind if CS sells the top i gifted to her. [22:13] you said devs "Deserve" that profit. No more then I "deserve" the profit. [22:13] That is my way of passing it on if i can [22:13] I, unlike you, dont spew rhetoric of being "for the people" while doing the very thing i protest against. [22:13] i realise that many ppl cannot make money by designing but they can if they resell some of my stuff. [22:14] randra, I apologize if you feel slighted, or cheated, but I would not have sold those cats had an agreement existed concerning their sale. [22:14] if those things take T$ away from you Phedre, that's ok with you? [22:14] dsx: you dodge the issue again. [22:14] nothing is going to be solved here, clearly. [22:14] how do they take TB away from me? [22:14] you are DOING exactly what you protest AGAINST [22:14] potential sales [22:14] how can you defend that? you cant. so you dodge it. [22:14] 07heyhey [22:14] 07RANDRA! [22:15] i ahve already med the TB in the first place for them to be resold [22:15] 12«11Phedre12» I understand your viewpoint. It differs from person to person. I feel that most people are not so open-minded concerning deals such as this one, and would therefore feel betrayed by someone "stealing" profit that they could've had for themselves, had they not been generous enough to gift the item to them in the first place. [22:15] consider me compition randra. lower your costs accordingly, and I will be forced to as well. [22:15] 07CALIFORNIA IS SCREWED! [22:15] ... the colors... ack... [22:15] *** Joins: tru|sleep (TruSoulja@rh-116-58.johnstown.resnet.pitt.edu) [22:15] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tru|sleep [22:15] i consider you a thief, not competition. You're like the dude in the van that sells stolen VCRs. [22:15] so now I stole them from you? [22:15] once you run out, you're out of business anyway. [22:15] lol. [22:15] I'm tired of your rhetoric now sir. [22:15] * CrystalShard wants to see DSX's van [22:16] if you've broken the agreed terms, yes in effect you have stolen them [22:16] The problem in this case, is that DSX and Randra, both have opposing social views on what constitutes acceptible behaviour with regards to gifts [22:16] There were no terms mescad [22:16] *** ChanServ sets mode: +l 25 [22:16] DSX - there's no need to be condescending [22:16] says DSX, Randra says different [22:16] Maybe I should argue that more vehmently, but I'm trying to remember that this chat log will no doubt be displayed in all of there tomorrow. [22:16] They were not gifts Lyekka please do not confuse. DSX paid what Randra at the time felt was a fair price [22:16] * Lyekka 12is AFK, 04Z07z08Z09Z12z11z13Z04Z07z08z09z12Z11z13z04z07z08z12. Gone now for:«11112hrs 15mins12» 12(11Pager is On, /ctcp Lyekka Page 12) 06—14I06-15n06-15v06-00i06-00s06-15i06-15o06-14n06— [22:17] the reduced price was the "gift" [22:17] he is quibbling now because he is not making the money in 'potential sales" as mescad put it [22:17] no, it was a DEAL. [22:17] Not a GIFT. [22:17] i cut him a deal based on the fact he wouldnt resell. Why on earth would i sell someone 50 cats at 1/6th my going rate. [22:17] and that is the reall issue [22:17] I haggled with her [22:17] 12«11Phedre12» But what is being missed is that Randra would not have discounted the items, had it been someone else [22:17] a GIFT would have been at COST [22:17] phedre: actually, you can pull a dsx if you wish. but that is not the issue at all. [22:17] Mescad hit it on the head [22:18] phedre: if he sold them for what he paid, which was 900, he'd be HUGELY undercutting me, and taking away even more sales. But instead, he chooses greed, and tries to make himself a $35 profit. [22:18] as it stands, his DEAL was still 3x the COST. [22:18] i believe it IS the issue and I am entitled to that! [22:18] lol [22:18] again, you dare argue what worth I apply to objects I own. [22:19] right 35K NOT in your pocket! [22:19] you can believe what you want, but thats not MY issue. [22:19] especially in light of their price still being 1/2 of your own price. [22:19] heh. Hypocrites so amuse me. [22:19] yes, they do amuse me as well [22:19] if he sold them for 900, the 35k would not be in my pocket. [22:19] so is it all about the money to you too? [22:19] it would be in the avatar who purchased its pocket. [22:19] The crux of the matter is, where there were no set written or agreed terms, both people defaulted to their terms in their own heads. It's all been one big mis-understanding - and I don't think you can apportion blame anywhere [22:20] Both of you just "assumed" - you were not wrong to do so [22:20] DSX: its clearly all about the money to YOU, or else you would be selling them for what you paid for at the BULK rate. [22:20] ... Helba have just joined There_Modders. [22:20] * CrystalShard falls off the chair [22:20] I agree lyekka. [22:20] but look where it has got you [22:20] Agreed lyekka [22:20] look, I honestly didn't even take into consideration what I paid for them. [22:21] However, that being said - at this moment in time, Randra is the only one "losing out" [22:21] haha [22:21] I simply saw randra's price, and said, 1/2 seems fair for these cats. [22:21] really, then why take into account wholesale prices? [22:21] if I was making money on it, fine, because I do love those cats. [22:21] If you love them, why sell them? [22:21] his wholesale price was differnt than yours Randra [22:21] but I never did the math over what my "wholesale" was knowingly [22:22] how convenient for you [22:22] after all the talk of the 'deals' you got [22:22] i find that very hard to believe. [22:22] and to be accused of being a liar makes me want to just raise the price all the more, and then use it to buy more of your stuff, and sell them at below your fee too. [22:22] 'But that would be rude. [22:22] DSX - apologise to Randra. Randra - accept his apology and move on. The moggies are on sale now, and there's not a lot anyone can do about it. Both of you - Kiss and make up :P [22:22] LOL [22:22] We have enough drama in There as it is. You need to both drop your pride and see where each of you went wrong - then start over [22:23] * Randra_Loqqet sticks out a foot: kiss plz [22:23] ... not to change the topic, but is it just me or everybody are alot more touchy lately? (yes, me included) [22:23] * Digital_Signal_X sticks out an ass. kiss please. [22:23] CS - agreed [22:23] yes CS - Hormones [22:23] NO! HOW DARE YO... um perhaps [22:23] * Randra_Loqqet sticks out a foot farther: boot [22:23] X'D [22:23] * Lyekka slaps forehead [22:23] Sorry dsx but that is funny [22:23] lol [22:23] did you just fart on his foot ;) [22:23] You're all hopeless princesses. [22:24] LOL [22:24] stinky. [22:24] Anyone here saw .hack//sign? [22:24] Come on now DSX - you're a big boy ;P - do it properly [22:24] all those beans you had for lunch YUK [22:24] Randra, I'm sorry. [22:24] so DSX, are you in this to make money or to share cats with everyone? [22:24] both. [22:24] lmao Mescad - shut it [22:24] apology accepted. [22:24] * Phedre bops mescad on the head [22:25] There [22:25] and for calling me a greedy liar? [22:25] Now if anyone needs me, I'll be in the UN headquarters [22:25] well i stand by that. [22:25] XD [22:25] Setting peace between Israel and Syria? [22:25] Your bed lyekka? [22:25] * Lyekka 12is AFK, 04Z07z08Z09Z12z11z13Z04Z07z08z09z12Z11z13z04z07z08z12. Gone now for:«11112hrs 24mins12» 12(11Pager is On, /ctcp Lyekka Page 12) 06—14I06-15n06-15v06-00i06-00s06-15i06-15o06-14n06— [22:25] and um.. Randra, can I get a deal on some cats ;) [22:25] mescad: sure, you want 100 of em for 1 penny? [22:25] 12«11Phedre12» I'm there already ;) [22:25] SURE! [22:25] I promise to resell them! [22:25] tnx! [22:25] wait. [22:25] ROFLMAO!!! [22:25] I have to apologize and he doesn't? Sorry. Fuck that. [22:26] too late! [22:26] (someone here missed the point) [22:26] I just figured out what the problem is. We've all been hanging out so long that everyone is cycling at the same time [22:26] lol [22:26] i think they should both apologize [22:26] me too [22:26] * Mescad doesn't own a bike [22:27] I'm sorry. [22:27] LOL [22:27] I will never do it again. [22:27] I'm sorry [22:27] thing is, i am truly sorry he feels insulted and slighted. There's a part of me that hates strife. [22:27] I'm really fucking sorry [22:27] no no me i am Lyekka [22:27] which part? Your gonads? [22:27] my cockles. or subcockles. [22:27] somewhere in my heart. [22:27] (gonads and strife, gonads and strife, gonads and strife) [22:27] I apologised second. [22:27] X'D [22:27] no you were first [22:28] (goad I hate that song) [22:28] I am sorry Lyekka stuck that song in my head [22:28] Phedre, I'm really utterly totally unbelievably sorry [22:28] MBoffin, I'm sorry man [22:28] Oh. In that case, sorry for being first. [22:28] I think randra won't apologize. Shrug. call me names all you want randra. [22:28] I will make sure to be second next time. [22:28] `nod [22:28] ROFLMAO [22:28] Wolf, i'm so sorry I LOVE YOU MAN [22:28] `handup Can I call you names too? I don't have a reason yet, but I like to stock up [22:28] Swen, i am more sorry that lyekka from the depths of my soul. [22:28] DSX - quit whining like a baby. Jeez, what are you... 12? [22:28] Gimme a hug! [22:28] i'm sorry for calling you names. I'm sorry for ever cutting you deal, too. we'll leave it at that. [22:28] thanks. [22:29] Group hug. [22:29] * Randra_Loqqet gives CS a noogie [22:29] {{{{{{{{{{{{{{HUG}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} [22:29] oh - and before I go.... [22:29] ? [22:29] Digital_Signal_X, Yo mama's breath is so stank when she exhales her teeth have to duck [22:29] lol [22:29] LMAO [22:29] lol [22:29] X'D [22:29] Sorry, Phedre...don't understand... [22:29] LOL [22:29] scroll up ;) [22:29] Tink, I'm sorry you had to heard that comment from Lyekka [22:29] * Tink 12is AFK, Midterm Studies12. Gone now for:«111114hrs 24mins12» 12(11Pager is On, /ctcp Tink Page 12) 06—14I06-15n06-15v06-00i06-00s06-15i06-15o06-14n06— [22:29] oh...I see...group hugs and all :-) [22:29] She didnt. [22:30] hugs! [22:30] and if anyone posts this argument on the forums, I'll be sending my peacekeepers round to your door to kick the shit out of you [22:30] oh, then sorry for setting off your away message unnecessarily [22:30] I'll be sending Homeland Security. [22:30] * Phedre quivering with..... [22:30] LOL [22:30] I'm going [22:30] Yay [22:30] `wave [22:30] :P [22:30] say it! [22:30] :P~ [22:30] anitcipation? [22:30] *sobbing*...I love you guys...I've never felt this way before *honk!* [22:30] * Mescad sighs [22:30] you don't know!? [22:31] If this is going to end like Ghost Busters 2... [22:31] I'd prefer Ghostbusters 1, yummy :) [22:31] awww Jade i love you tooo...*SOB* [22:31] huh? [22:31] what I mis [22:31] rofl [22:31] s [22:31] lol [22:31] ROFL [22:31] heheh [22:31] Start scrolling. * Looking up Jade_ user info... [22:31] don't get jade and I started.. [22:31] lol [22:31] it will get even worse : ) [22:32] I've just sent ThereMail to xorsyst saying i'm sorry. [22:32] did you include candies? [22:32] oh me too! sorry for the double email xorsyst [22:32] lol [22:32] mescad, you should do that to kate roxxie whoever [22:32] that always makes xorsyst happy. [22:32] do what? [22:33] katie_rocks [22:33] send an apology : ) [22:33] er, rox [22:33] why am I getting brought into this?????????? [22:33] Yes, you should. :P [22:33] Because you're HERE. lol [22:33] nah I don't care if she hates me for it [22:33] * Mescad doesn't have a need to be loved by all [22:33] Well, i'm still ticked. :P [22:33] well not really I was wathing the TERRIBLE tragety in calif [22:33] on tv [22:33] we were having fun telling people who where not part of the conversation that we were sorry and we loved them [22:33] that is all jade [22:34] Oh, right. Da Dherminadhor have won the elections. [22:34] LOL [22:34] yep we have the nazi frigging kid as our gov [22:34] I'm so glad I visited before he got there. [22:34] he is not a nazi [22:35] I liked some of his movies, but not -him-. :) [22:35] *** Quits: Lloyd|Here2 (~Lloyd@adsl-68-122-237-92.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [22:35] I thought all Europeans were Nazis [22:35] that i know of [22:35] Its like in India where you can only be voted for goverment offices if you starred at a soap opera. [22:35] he's austrian.. they were like, persecuted by the nazi's. [22:35] sorry his father is one [22:35] oh? [22:35] you REALLY need to read about these things [22:35] Yup --- cut out remaining log -------