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CrystalShard	Heeeeeere's Jony
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CrystalShard	Tink-san
CrystalShard	Me too
CrystalShard	Stages have been around since Pb1 I think
CrystalShard	The chairs?
CrystalShard	Oh this.
CrystalShard	V1
CrystalShard	heh
Sue_G	figures
Randra_Loqqet	`wave
CrystalShard	I think he should give us microphones when/if he gets here
CrystalShard	So I was talking with DSX, and he did have an intresting point that I managed to salvage:
CrystalShard	There was a discussion about people being paid with T$
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CrystalShard	And basicly the issue was that since T$ are not recognised by the US or whatever country you're at, they do not end up in your tax report
CrystalShard	... and then you go and convert them to USD
CrystalShard	Yes.
CrystalShard	But the goverment may do.
Phedre	hiya
CrystalShard	Since yuo're earning profit and yet not paying IRS
Phedre	'wave
CrystalShard	Hiya
CrystalShard	Some people do go beyond the cap
Randra_Loqqet	hm.. did they change how you drop books in your own zones (werent they supposed to last forever?)
Phedre	don think so
CrystalShard	Oh, the MAB is not an issue
CrystalShard	Yup. Talkig about devs
Tinksterl	oh there...LOL, was trying to hook up my headset
CrystalShard	And mentors. And whatever other job that gets you big amounts of T$
CrystalShard	That you can convert
Sue_G	'''yay
Sue_G	he's coming
Sue_G	'whew
Randra_Loqqet	i dropped a buncha trophies down and they're counting down in time.. hm.
CrystalShard	There he is
CrystalShard	They become earnings if you convert them.
CrystalShard	`hmm
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CrystalShard	Well, thats what I mentioned, but he seemed very harsh on that point. Need to go over it
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Sue_G	Hi Stewart :)
CrystalShard	IRC. I was discussing the concept of using the geeks from the There members pool to help with programming and There Script development
CrystalShard	It blew up when we reached "payment"
CrystalShard	I suggested T$
CrystalShard	Today
CrystalShard	4 hours or so
CrystalShard	There what?
CrystalShard	Oh yes
Phedre	Hi
CrystalShard	We talked about that before I reached pooling programmers
Phedre	'wave
CrystalShard	`wave
There_Fun	hi everybody
WildChild	Hi TF
There_Fun	'bow
Tinksterl	'wave
Sue_G	Good to see you Stewart :)
Myrmex	Heyya, T_F
There_Fun	hey all.
Sue_G	Ok where to start guys?
CrystalShard	Hiya
Phedre	are we waiting for anyone else? VV?
Phedre	UJ?
Randra_Loqqet	`wave
Sue_G	she accepted
CrystalShard	Stewart, can you give us microphones from the host spot please so you will be able to read our chat?
Sue_G	uj didn't
There_Fun	Sorry, how do I do that?
CrystalShard	I'll give an example
CrystalShard	`givemic
WildChild	'HandUp'HandUp'HandUplol
CrystalShard	`givemic
Tinksterl	lol
Phedre	hi
CrystalShard	`givemic
CrystalShard	`givemic
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Randra_Loqqet	doesnt it take the mic from the previous person tho?
CrystalShard	... hmm
Phedre	it should
CrystalShard	Didnt know there was a limit
Phedre	but it is not
Phedre	lol
Randra_Loqqet	well thats koo :D
CrystalShard	`givemic
WildChild	I can still see the bubbles from Phe, RL, and Myr
Phedre	i can see Wilds' bubbles
CrystalShard	Ok... guess we'll have to stick to Chat History
Tinksterl	lol, oh fun
Randra_Loqqet	i think its workin ok
Randra_Loqqet	CS
WildChild	noooooooooooo ooooooooooooo ooooooooooooo ooooooooooooo ooooooooooooo oo
Tinksterl	i think it's fine
CrystalShard	Shall I sit you back people? lol
Tinksterl	hehehe
WildChild	give Sue and Tink mics too
Myrmex	'Back'
Tinksterl	and you
CrystalShard	`givemic
CrystalShard	`givemic
CrystalShard	`givemic
CrystalShard	`givmic
CrystalShard	`givemic
There_Fun	readable.
Tinksterl	lol
Myrmex	'givemic
Randra_Loqqet	[```yay` ]it does
Tinksterl	vah hoo
There_Fun	Doesn't seem to be working.
CrystalShard	Doh.
Tinksterl	there we go, lol
Randra_Loqqet	hmmm
Tinksterl	'hmm
WildChild	come sit down here. lol
Randra_Loqqet	i see everyone else's fine now
Sue_G	fix it then tf :)
Phedre	myr returned his
Phedre	LOL
Tinksterl	lol
There_Fun	oooh, so I can see everybody. let's just use bubbles.
WildChild	Or sit where CS was sitting
Myrmex	Ooops...
There_Fun	Only trick is to make sure you only ask one question at a time.
There_Fun	so pls raise hands and then I'll answer.
Sue_G	sounds good to me
Tinksterl	'Whoopee'doh....
Sue_G	From what we've seen in the forums and what we've heard, one of the biggest problems is bugs. they affect both fun and retention
Sue_G	can you tell us anything new>
There_Fun	Sure.
There_Fun	First off, we agree completely.
There_Fun	The stuff we have introduced has not been as bug free as we think it should be.
There_Fun	and So we're going to introduce way, way less in the coming cycle spend most of the time fixing stuff.
Myrmex	'handup
There_Fun	We have lots that needs to be addressed.
There_Fun	Last cycle it was lots of performance related.
There_Fun	makes It will be that kind plus lots of the useability kind. Stuff that the experience seem broken at times.
There_Fun	OK, WC, you're next.
WildChild	'handup
WildChild	Specifically about bugs... there are many issues with players Houses, FunZones, Frontier Zones, and PAZ's. Issues that cost money on a regular basis. When is the fix for these issues expected?
There_Fun	So I'm not really prepared to deal with the status on specific bugs.
There_Fun	and The way I would have to do that is look in the bug database figure out which ones you were describing and then see when they will bbe input.
There_Fun	Let me answer a little differently.
There_Fun	We make changes and fixes every 2 weeks except if it involves something that affects the client on your computer.
There_Fun	Those have been much less frequent.
There_Fun	The issues with houses and FZ, etc, I think has been worked on continually for the last few weeks with a wide range of problems showing up.
There_Fun	The ones that I know about include furniture losing its settings, and disappearing.
There_Fun	Are you talking about that sort of thing.
There_Fun	What is the biggest issue WC?
WildChild	I'm more concerned about the way Houses don't retain the layouts, pieces from funzones go missing from recorded tracks, gates don't recognize people going through them, and PAZ "steal" time when they're not in-world
WildChild	Those, I believe, are the biggest 3 I've heard about
There_Fun	OK, so I don't know about the last two you mentioned.
CrystalShard	`handup
There_Fun	The layout issues and siappearing furnitures and recordings, we think we have fixed.
Sue_G	lol
Randra_Loqqet	may i add something to that...
There_Fun	The simplest way to make sure that these issues are reported is to contact help.
There_Fun	an They create a report that eventually turns into a bug that engineer can work on.
There_Fun	coming However, one significant change we are mkaing inthe weeks is we are creating a "Live Engineering" team or some name like that.
There_Fun	fixes The basic idea is that there will be a small group who only problems that are affected the live product and can fix them much faster.
WildChild	ok
There_Fun	OK, Myrm. then CShard.
Myrmex	'handdown
WildChild	'GiveMic
Myrmex	When you say 'cycle', does that mean the 2 week period?
Sue_G	'GiveMic
There_Fun	download No, right now cycle is the big release where yo have to a bunch of new stuff. a major release.
Myrmex	Is there any set timeframe for cycles?
There_Fun	We can fixed a bunchof stuff that doesn't affect the program sitting on your computer.
There_Fun	about Well, we are trying to shorten them but they have been 12 or so weeks sometimes 16.
There_Fun	Too long in my opinion.
Myrmex	Many peoples' opinions...
Phedre	'HandUp
Myrmex	But thanks, that gives us an idea when to say fixes might be out...
WildChild	'GiveMic
CrystalShard	(np)
There_Fun	Again, fixes come in 2 flavors: fixed in the next 2 weeks or for the next cycle.
WildChild	(sorry, couldn't read Myr's bubbles)
CrystalShard	Chat history, WC. :)
WildChild	oops
CrystalShard	lol
There_Fun	ok, Crystal.
CrystalShard	Allrighty, 2 questions.
CrystalShard	`handdown
WildChild	'TakeMic'GiveMic
CrystalShard	I would like to begin with the mentor program issues
CrystalShard	Mentors are pretty much responsible now as greeters for the initial experience of newbies.
CrystalShard	To do that we need better tools, plain and simple.
CrystalShard	As it goes right now, the newbie list is pretty much a battle ground.
CrystalShard	"He with the better ping rates win"
CrystalShard	And then there's the newbies claimed by mentors who never bother to check on the newbies
CrystalShard	And we cant tell who is supposed to mentor them
CrystalShard	Etc'
CrystalShard	There's a whole list of mentor issues that will take ages and several A4 pages just to mention here
CrystalShard	Is anything being done on this issue?
There_Fun	being Geez, good question.I have heard of a couple things discussed but I don't know of any in particular.
There_Fun	I'm making a note, though.
WildChild	Would you be willing to listen to a suggestion for an easy Half-Way Solution?
There_Fun	Sure.
CrystalShard	Its a pretty good suggestion, too
There_Fun	OK, go.
WildChild	There are actually 3 easy ways to reduce much of theproblems with the Mentor program, from what I've heard from other members
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WildChild	payment 1) Do away with the Mentor Program, and tie in the aspect of Mentoring, with the Newbie Helping Skill. Whenever you help a Newbie, you acrue a small "payment", such as 200Tbux for loaning a buggy or board, by example
WildChild	who That way< EVERYONE is a mentor, and it's based off of actually HELPS, not who has the fastest ping time
WildChild	2) Actually USE the section on the claim form to list where the Newbie was Born, so we know where to go to meet with them
Sue_G	'Clap
WildChild	3) Add a column to the forms to list WHO claimed each Newbie, so there is accountability
There_Fun	So I have heard about 3 but I don't understand 2.
WildChild	If you cannot implement choice 1, then Choices 2 and 3 will help tremendously
There_Fun	Explain 2 again.pls
Randra_Loqqet	#1 would not work well
WildChild	2 was to USE the column on the claim for to list where the newbies were born. Right now, we have NO WAY of knowing where the new people we claim happen to spawn
CrystalShard	Back at PB3 it just said a number instead of a place. Now even that is gone.
There_Fun	Oh, you're talking about arrival points?
WildChild	Yes
Sue_G	yes
CrystalShard	Yup
Calvin_J4	yes
Tinksterl	yeah
WildChild	We are not told where they are arriving, or "Born" into There
There_Fun	So, I like 2 and 3.
WildChild	2 and 3 would help tremendously
There_Fun	The only problem I have with 1 is the fact that There plays a role in determining who is an "official" mentor.
WildChild	Yes, I can understand that.
There_Fun	I have heard a variety of concerns about people "pretending" to be mentors.
WildChild	Which is why choices 2 and 3 are easy workarounds to get through the abuse
CrystalShard	Cant people allready "pretend" to be mentors for skill?
WildChild	determine After a few very short weeks, it would be VERY easy to who is taking advantage of the system, and remove them from the program for not doing their jobs
Randra_Loqqet	1 is also flawed in other ways
CrystalShard	Also, does it matter if they "pretend" as long as they help?
There_Fun	Well, I agree that it appears to be a simpler approach.
There_Fun	No, I think its the potential for abuse that is of concern.
Randra_Loqqet	your newbie skill doesnt raise unless they level up when u lend something
Calvin_J4	options 2 and 3 will go a long ways to repairing the program
Randra_Loqqet	also that.
Myrmex	T$ Maybe only members of the Mentor club would get the for helping... But base it on HOW MUCH they help...
There_Fun	Mentors are given the privilege now so we can limit the number of them and get the program working right before opeinng it up.
WildChild	Well, like I said, number 1 is "ideal", but I can understand if it cannot be done
CrystalShard	(let me know when to move to the next issue)
There_Fun	Well, I noted that issue CS and will find out what the latest plans are.
CrystalShard	Allrighty
WildChild	Excellent
CrystalShard	Next issue:
CrystalShard	Trial members.
WildChild	CS, then RL
CrystalShard	Apperently, trial members are not in a "trial" at all.
CrystalShard	They enter and get a very limited experience from what should basicly be "a mind blowing demonstration "
CrystalShard	Give them voice.
CrystalShard	Give them music, give them limietd bookmarks and them summoning! Let them taste There as "it could be if you pay" for 14 days, and then take the "candy" away and see run like mad to pay for all the extras.
Sue_G	lol
Myrmex	AGreed!
Tinksterl	'Clap'Clap'Claplol
Tinksterl	yes! absolutely
WildChild	'Clap'Clapexactly. Good marketing strategy
Phedre	that was one if my points hehe
Tinksterl	mine too, LOL
CrystalShard	That will also help us do our job as mentors (those of us in the audience I mean. lol ) as they will actually be able to save spots. They will be able to summon us!
Sue_G	The way it is now newbies can't even summon helpers!
CrystalShard	When you call for help, you want it to come to you, not to "oh you are in a deserted area let me save you"
CrystalShard	Thoughts?
Myrmex	Those are the things that hooked US!
Randra_Loqqet	i agree completely
Tinksterl	absolutely
There_Fun	Hmm, again I have lots.
WildChild	What do you think, TF, any likelihood of being able to maybe push this up the ranks?
There_Fun	Well, all of this is being reviewed rigth now since we have a few weeks worth of data and reports like yours.
WildChild	so it IS being considered?
Sue_G	'yay
There_Fun	All of this can be changed. I know it is I'm just not sure that giving the trial members more is being too seriously considered until the conversion rate is not good enough.
Sue_G	it could be even better now
WildChild	So they're waiting for the bottom to drop out before they make a move?
There_Fun	Personally, I didn't like the idea of taking anything away from the trial members but
WildChild	(confused)
There_Fun	I think that is a more drastic way to describe it.
CrystalShard	Fixing a problem only after it happens is too much of an israeli attitude. :)
Phedre	but the truth
Myrmex	lol
Tinksterl	lol
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There_Fun	trial been I don't think that the concern you expressed which is that members aren't getting enoughe experience to sign up has not what we have found so far.
Myrmex	The numbers don't follow the outcry, eh?
Phedre	'hmm i usppose it is a case of what they don;t know won't hurt them.. since we are on the inside we have a diff perspective.
There_Fun	I'm curious. The lack of a summon seems like a real problem but there are lots of try it machines around and we haven't heard that trials are hoosing not to sign up because they can't save favorite places.
WildChild	I don't think that's the issue, either
Sue_G	why aren't they signing up?
CrystalShard	I have a bunch of newbies that I keep getting to places, but its not much of a big issue
Phedre	'HandDown
CrystalShard	Yup.
WildChild	explorer I think it's more that... you're more likely to expand the number of people who sign up for Voice and Music and packs, if they experience it first, and then lose it after the trial if they don't sign up
Phedre	'nod
Tinksterl	they don't know what they're missing if they've never had it
WildChild	Giving it to them during the trial would give them a taste, improve their overall experience of There, and make it more likely that they'll sign up for those packs later on
Virtual_Vikki	That was my reccomendation based on data I collected. Visitors felt members got to do thing that they could not
WildChild	Fun I think the concern falls more under the idea of a better marketing strategy, but since they are a large part of and Retention, it's a case of "Where's the harm of letting them try it"?
CrystalShard	I guess i'm done.
WildChild	'GiveMiclol
There_Fun	Well, again, I am not going to defend holding cool stuff back. That was a particular strategy that so far has results in a much hihger number of new members buying the explorer pack.
There_Fun	Go figure.
Sue_G	but they would buy it anyway to keep what they already have
Phedre	but overall are the number of sign ups higher or lower than expected with this strategy?
There_Fun	All I can say is that all of this stuff undergoes ongoing scrutiny including whether the trial membership has enough heft to it.
There_Fun	Right now, the focus on sign ups is on simplifying the process.
There_Fun	Too many steps and too many people are not making it to the end.
Phedre	'nod
Virtual_Vikki	the end of the signup process?
There_Fun	You apply, you get an invite, you download, etc, etc
There_Fun	Most people can't stay interested in it that long.
There_Fun	Or at least I think that's the problem.
There_Fun	So that is at the top iof the list right now.
Randra_Loqqet	i can imagine it being a big roadblock for a lot of people
Randra_Loqqet	they want instant fun ;)
There_Fun	Yeah, I agree.
There_Fun	Anyway, that's at the top of the list right now.
Randra_Loqqet	ok, most of my Qs were covered, but i do have 1
Phedre	'HandUp
There_Fun	Go RL.
Randra_Loqqet	re: the future. Previously talk of "too much fun too fast", etc lead me to believe that the 'unveiling' process would limit actual locations.
Randra_Loqqet	Any plans for future areas that only experienced members would have access to? such as islands or zones etc
There_Fun	Yes. There is one project where areas can be much easier to limit who or what gets used in them.So we could make a allowed Japanese island and only items that were Japanese-theme d would be in.
CrystalShard	`handup
Randra_Loqqet	ah yes, that i'm aware of.. i was meaning more on a basis of skill levels... so members might have a 'goal' to try to achieve
There_Fun	Well, the same approach can be used for skill level.
There_Fun	We don't have any specific plans for that but we absolutely will.
There_Fun	Keep in mind, that up to the launch, our focus was primarily on the next release.
Randra_Loqqet	cool. yea
There_Fun	more Now, we are trying to fix the current product to get it much bug-free while we plan out the next year or so.
There_Fun	We never really had a serious 1 yr plan. Only everybody's wishlist.
There_Fun	will Now I think we will have the time to plan that out and it definitely include expanding the variety of the kinds of places we have.
Randra_Loqqet	that will be a big plus
There_Fun	Yeah, we agree. The engineering has mostly been done. Now we just need to get some other pieces so that we can roll it out.
There_Fun	CS?
Randra_Loqqet	cool :)
Phedre	er hem!
Tinksterl	lol
Phedre	:P
CrystalShard	`handdown
There_Fun	OH, sorry Phedre?
Phedre	LOL
CrystalShard	`handup
CrystalShard	....
CrystalShard	Wait who's turn? lol
There_Fun	groan.
WildChild	'GiveMicoops. sorry
Phedre	let cs go
Phedre	mine is long
Tinksterl	phedre was first
Tinksterl	her hand wouldn't raise for some reason
There_Fun	CS, give it to Phedre, pls.
Tinksterl	lol
Phedre	'HandDownok
WildChild	'GiveMic
Phedre	this is not so much a questions as something i would like you to expand on.
Phedre	Balance:
Randra_Loqqet	'GiveMic
Phedre	there are two main reasone folk leave. bugs and boredem
There_Fun	ah, the 2 b's
Virtual_Vikki	'handup
Phedre	so not releaseing new content will cause increased boreden but not fixing bugs will cause increased IRE
Phedre	how are you hoping to adress these and stil keep us all happy :P
There_Fun	Geez, that's a tall order.
Phedre	hehe you know me :)
There_Fun	Especially you 'rofl
There_Fun	I think the answer is that we will fix bugs, introduce some new stuff including some new fun vehicles but we will be out of balance for a while.
There_Fun	That is exactly the term I use and so I totally get what you're saying.
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There_Fun	I think we are out of balance.
Phedre	'nod
There_Fun	But I don't think we can fix bugs and be balanced.
There_Fun	Except if we do some smaller kinds of things that don't take tons of tengineering but use 3d instead.
Myrmex	'handup
There_Fun	Well, I'm hopeful that the bug issue will go away.
Phedre	know any projection on a timeling til balance is achieved?i going from porduction to live product is tuff too
There_Fun	We will release software only when it's ready not when the schedule says it should go so the quality will go up.
Phedre	good hear!
There_Fun	Then we can focus on more stuff.
Myrmex	'yay
There_Fun	In particular, starting this quarter we will (once again) try and get 3rd party development going.
Phedre	'nod
There_Fun	Something on the order of a pilot project but at least a way to expand the amount of stuff we introduce.
Phedre	'nod
There_Fun	well-designed We need to find ways to get more things that are and are fun to play with into the world without the amount of effort it currrently takes.
Phedre	ok
WildChild	(CS, VV, then Myr?)
There_Fun	Yes, I'm talking about professionals.
Phedre	by third party you mean professional or useing the dev comminuty?ok
CrystalShard	(Yup, check chat history for handups)
Phedre	thanks
Phedre	cool
There_Fun	aren't PLUS expanding what our developers do,as well, that c++ programmers.
There_Fun	and ok, just a couple more q's. I have to take my kids on an errand they are starting to bug me.
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WildChild	lol
Myrmex	lol
Tinksterl	lol
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Randra_Loqqet	lol
Virtual_Vikki	sorry
There_Fun	OK, VV?
There_Fun	Who's up?
CrystalShard	Me?
Tinksterl	...CS i think
Virtual_Vikki	Oh thank'handdow n
Myrmex	CS...
Tinksterl	then VV
Virtual_Vikki	I was wondering if you got the report I posted.. as there were 3 B's
Virtual_Vikki	bugs
Virtual_Vikki	Boredom
Virtual_Vikki	and Broke.
Virtual_Vikki	and visitors seem to feel that they have nothing and members ahve everything
Virtual_Vikki	andyhow I wrote it all down and posted it
Virtual_Vikki	to the forums for the mab
Virtual_Vikki	I don't relly have naything to add but that thir "B"
Virtual_Vikki	ok
WildChild	'GiveMic
Virtual_Vikki	thanx
Sue_G	i don't think T_F has joined the club yet VV
Virtual_Vikki	Oh
There_Fun	Which club?
Sue_G	MAB
WildChild	the MAB club
Virtual_Vikki	thats a good point are you able to access the forums for the MAB TF?
There_Fun	oh, okay. I thought that was just for you folks.
Virtual_Vikki	Oh wel you shoudl be a part of it
Virtual_Vikki	I will e-mail you the report
Virtual_Vikki	thanx
CrystalShard	We got about 9 non members in there allready
Virtual_Vikki	do the next perosna nd have fun with yoru kids
Virtual_Vikki	'wave
There_Fun	I'll join. ok,
There_Fun	CS!
CrystalShard	Yo
Virtual_Vikki	'givmic
CrystalShard	lol ok
WildChild	'GiveMicLast is Myrmex
CrystalShard	I have 2 issues:
CrystalShard	1)
CrystalShard	We are the fun and retention sub group, that you know
CrystalShard	But what -we- want to know is... what do you want to hear from us? What do you want us to tell the community back?
CrystalShard	.. what do you want us to do? lol
Myrmex	'handdown
There_Fun	Wow. Thanks for asking.
Sue_G	uh oh lol
Tinksterl	lol
WildChild	All a part of 2-way communication
Virtual_Vikki	an communicatio n came up a few times in my asking people
Virtual_Vikki	as being a reason they leave.. lack of it
WildChild	Anything else we should pass along?
There_Fun	state Couple simple things... We are working hard to improve the is under ie the bugginess and will be able to add more stuff once that the control.I guess the other thing is that we have heard and received lots of great input and are working hard to address issues. It is very rare that something comes up that we didn't already have on a list somewhere and despite comments in the forums, we are deifnitely reading them and improving stuff as fast as we c
There_Fun	Bottom line... we're definitely listening.
CrystalShard	Ok.. just had a huge line on Chat history. lol
CrystalShard	Give me a second to read
CrystalShard	ok
WildChild	lol
There_Fun	So maybe the other thing is be patient and know that we're working as fast as we can. I wish we could do more but doing too huge much can get us into trouble. We're trying to improve the quality of what we do. Unfortunately, we have such a ly diverse group of members, you all want different stuff.
There_Fun	Exciting but it means we need to make difficult decisions at time.
There_Fun	The other thing is we are trying to improve our rate of responsiveness.
There_Fun	It seemed like it took forever to get stuff fixed. We are working on that, too.
CrystalShard	Thank you.
There_Fun	cool The only other thing I would say is that we have TONS of stuff planned as soon as we can get the current stuff under control. Kind of along answer.
There_Fun	Sorry.
There_Fun	ok, Myrmax.
There_Fun	last q.
CrystalShard	Er.. ok.
CrystalShard	`givemic
Myrmex	No... My question has already been answered...
There_Fun	Make it good one.
There_Fun	ok, CS, sorry, you had a part 2, right?
CrystalShard	Yup..
There_Fun	Go!
CrystalShard	Mic? lol
CrystalShard	Ok.. as it stands.. starting January the Marketing Machine is going to go full power.
WildChild	'GiveMic
CrystalShard	Deals with HP, Comcast, ATI, iVillage, etc'. There's going to be a pretty huge floods of newbies.
CrystalShard	Is There ready? Since this is the fun and retention topic, amount i'll ask: Is the customer service ready? Are the servers ready? Does the interface system ready to handle a huge of event listings?
CrystalShard	People acting?
CrystalShard	Or are we going to see block heads waiting for Call for Help for 2 hours while in the ocean where there's no other object to cause an over load?
CrystalShard	:)
WildChild	lol
There_Fun	So, the answer is we think so but the biggest unknown is on the customer service end.
There_Fun	They are doing a bunch of new things to improve their service plus if we have fewer bugs, they should have less to report and handle.
There_Fun	move With respect to marketing, these programs are going to be time interesting but right now, we don't think they are going to the needle a bunch.Sounds like they should but most of the they don't.
There_Fun	The server side is all mostly tested but every time more arrive, it tests something else.
There_Fun	I think we will keep the velvet rope up until we're sure.
CrystalShard	Are the interface sbeing improved? Happening Now cant support the smal amount of people as it stands.
CrystalShard	Not to mention the auctions
There_Fun	Happening Now and Search in general has all ben redone.
Virtual_Vikki	good!
CrystalShard	Phew.
Randra_Loqqet	good to hear
There_Fun	All of them were broken in about the same way and it was almost silly what was wrong with them.
CrystalShard	Auctions as wel?
There_Fun	Anyway, that should all be addressed in the next release.
CrystalShard	kk
CrystalShard	Thanks
There_Fun	Yes, Searching auction, you mean?
CrystalShard	Nope
CrystalShard	I mean, handling the load of many people trying to sell
CrystalShard	The design of the auction interface system will bend under the overload of the new people trying to sell things
Sue_G	'HandUp
CrystalShard	If you want a good demo, open up 'beanie" under female hairstyles
CrystalShard	Small community, HUGE list of pages and products. The layout and design can barely handle the load as it stands, and it will just grow worse.
CrystalShard	kk
There_Fun	I'll check out the beanies. My understanding is that this all has been reworked but you may be describing some other problem. ill check it otu.
CrystalShard	THanks
CrystalShard	`givemic
There_Fun	Sorry, I have to go.
There_Fun	Thanks for taking the time.
Randra_Loqqet	`bye tnx for being here TF
Virtual_Vikki	'wave
Sue_G	we know you're busy, but when can we meet again?
Virtual_Vikki	yes thank you for being here
Phedre	thanks for you time :)
Virtual_Vikki	ok
There_Fun	Email there_fun@ther einc.com with other questions or comments.
CrystalShard	Sorry Myrmex
Virtual_Vikki	I will send you a copy of my brief report
There_Fun	Thx VV.
WildChild	Thanks for coming!
Phedre	Could we report back wiht a precise of this meeting to the community?
Virtual_Vikki	ha
CrystalShard	Definetly so
There_Fun	Thanks for your support. I'm quite serious when I say we have lots of fun planned but we have to clean our rooms a bit before we are allowed to play again.!
Virtual_Vikki	yeah
Virtual_Vikki	fun stuff fi all over zephyr
Virtual_Vikki	ha
Tinksterl	'Clap
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Virtual_Vikki	bye
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CrystalShard	Elvis has left the building.
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Tinksterl	hehehe
Virtual_Vikki	There Fun has left the building
Virtual_Vikki	there fun has left the building
Myrmex	I gotta run, too...
CrystalShard	See ya
Virtual_Vikki	I have to go soon as well
Sue_G	i'll check with Lee Phedre
Phedre	In fourms?thanks sue?
Virtual_Vikki	appologies to you sue g
Virtual_Vikki	I got my reporti n in time
Virtual_Vikki	had it all written
Phedre	would be nice if we could offer a result of our meeting to the commuinity
Virtual_Vikki	thent eh forums swallowed it and told me I ahd to log in again
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Phedre	show that we are doing SOMETHING
Sue_G	lol
Virtual_Vikki	so I ahd to re-write theentire thing
Sue_G	i agree
Tinksterl	yeah
Virtual_Vikki	appologies
CrystalShard	Yup
Virtual_Vikki	cant hear you CS
CrystalShard	I'm pretty sure they would
Tinksterl	that wasn't CS
Virtual_Vikki	oh
Tinksterl	lol
Virtual_Vikki	ok
Virtual_Vikki	sorry Randra then
Virtual_Vikki	I am gettign ready to record
WildChild	I think some minutes from the meeting posted in the forums would go over well with the Community
Phedre	yes
Virtual_Vikki	and cant hear anything
Tinksterl	wildchild said that some minutes from the meetings would go over well in the community
CrystalShard	Sorry wildchild I was in an IM hell
WildChild	No worries. lol
Phedre	Sue is going to ask Lee, maybe write them up and pass them to him foo approval?
Sue_G	yes
Sue_G	don't want to step on any toes lol
Phedre	agreed
Tinksterl	lol
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Tinksterl	right
Phedre	no toestepping :)
Sue_G	rofl
Phedre	'toehop
Tinksterl	that's toe hopping! lol
WildChild	oh. my bad. lol
Phedre	ok i gotta dash to much still to do today for tomorrow
Phedre	thanks for setting this us Sue
Sue_G	thanks for stopping in Phedre
CrystalShard	Indeed you are Sue. :)
WildChild	I agree
Phedre	you are doing a mavelous job gettings us louts in order :)
Sue_G	T_F didn't accept the invite until 5 min into the meeting
Phedre	sheesh!
Sue_G	i was dieing!
Tinksterl	lol
WildChild	But it was a pleasant chat while waiting
Sue_G	if anyone wants to talk further, we can go to my house if you'd like
Virtual_Vikki	My ISP went out
Phedre	wish i could but i do have to run
Virtual_Vikki	I was sitting on the phoen with them
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Phedre	later folks!
Phedre	'wave
Virtual_Vikki	turns out someone hit a pole in town
Virtual_Vikki	see you all agian soon
WildChild	with Personally, I would love to be able to sit and brainstorm everyone, over some possible Topics to discuss with the community at Town hall Meetings
Virtual_Vikki	oh
CrystalShard	Bye VV
Virtual_Vikki	cool yes
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Virtual_Vikki	'wave
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Virtual_Vikki	cs are you on for tonite
Swen_Wu_Kong	poo, I missed it :-0
Virtual_Vikki	at the class event
Sue_G	aww
CrystalShard	I guess
Virtual_Vikki	ok
Swen_Wu_Kong	thanks Sue
Sue_G	i'll mail you the log Swen :)
CrystalShard	Minai said I can skip it if I fall asleep since its happening too late
Virtual_Vikki	aawww
Virtual_Vikki	yes thats like 6am?
CrystalShard	Yea
CrystalShard	Way too much for me. :)
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CrystalShard	ok, going to Sue's house.
Sue_G	swen want to join us?
Swen_Wu_Kong	see you CS ;-)
Swen_Wu_Kong	sure Sue...back at the ranch?
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Sue_G	yes
Swen_Wu_Kong	kk I keep forgetting the name
Sue_G	i'l summon you all
Virtual_Vikki	the rance
Swen_Wu_Kong	thanks
Virtual_Vikki	ranch?
Virtual_Vikki	oh
WildChild	Cool, because I have no idea where Sue's house is
WildChild	lol
Virtual_Vikki	I ahve to go get reday to film
Virtual_Vikki	i am so depressed to day too
WildChild	What are you filming, VV?
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Virtual_Vikki	I woke u
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